offering port Quinta S. Luiz 1890

vidie · Post by **vidie** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:58 am

Hi,
I found in the wine bar of my father a portwine quinta s. luiz from 1890 which we want to offer on this market place.
Pls. send my a feedback if you are interessted in or you can send me a mail to vidie@web.de

Thanks

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:38 am

This could be a very interesting item, but much depends on the condition of the bottle, the level of the wine inside, and how it has been stored over the years.

Please tell us more!

Tom

Derek T. · Post by **Derek T.** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:14 pm

I have an "Unknown Shipper" 1890 - we could do a 116 year old horizontal 8)

Derek

vidie · Post by **vidie** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:01 am

My grandfather had a wine store and after his death my father received some expensiv ones for his privat wine cellar. Now the port stand about 2 years in the wine cellar cool and dark. I am not a wine specialist so I can't give you more special informations about. Only it was bottled 0,75l in 1970 from Barros,Almeida & C. and it's in a wooden box.
If you give me your mail adress I can send you some pictures if it's helpful.
Rgds

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:41 am

Sounds like you have a type of Port known as a Colheita - where wine from a single vineyard (known as a Quinta in Portugal) is left to mature in a barrel for many years before bottling - unlike Vintage Ports, which are bottled within a couple of years of production.

As a collector, I would pay about £100 (150 euros) for the bottle - others might value it more highly..

I notice you have a German email address - whereabouts are you?

Tom

vidie · Post by **vidie** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:29 pm

Dear Tom,

Sorry for my long silence, but I was on a business trip without any possibilities to go online.
You would pay about 150,00 euros for this bottle.

I informed me about this portwine. So it is really more worth, after the good condition of the bottle and the correct storage.
Pls find enclosed pictures and the level of the wine inside. (in the neck)

After all facts my minimum is 230 euros.

I am from Nürnberg in bavaria, germany.

This link show you some details about the Quinta S. Luiz
http://www.porto-barros.pt/en/quintas.htm

Pls. send me a short feedback.

Thanks & best rgds,
Tobias

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:52 pm

As I emailed you - the answer is No - I do not think your bottle is worth that much.

A Vintage Port of that age is worth a large amount, but a Colheita is not.

Tom

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:26 pm

I thend to agree with Tom, this bottle is more about curiosity then pleasure. This porducer/Quinta has never been reknown for the quality of its port and its hability to stand time.

Also you'll find it difficult to sell it to an individual as for the time it takes to sell on auction, I don't think it worths it.